First international girl band ‘The Gloss’ to debut with European member

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For the first time ever, a K-pop girl group will debut with a European member!

MGMC Korea revealed to us that their group ‘The Gloss’, are an all girl group consisting of four members. Although two of them are Korean, with one Korean-American, there’s the unexpected addition of Olivia, who is of a French nationality.

The 4 girls were scouted during auditions through America, Europe and Korea, and although many auditions have happened in Europe for K-pop, this is the first time a European has been chosen to debut! So, if you’re putting off doing a K-pop audition because you’re not Korean, now you know that you still have a chance!

The Gloss will release their first video through their yet to be revealed official YouTube channel today, May 30th, at 0:00AM (KST) along with the opening of their official Facebook page. For us in the UK, that’s today at 16:00PM. They’ll also be revealing a cover video to showcase the members talents prior to their official debut in a few weeks.

Although Olivia will have the extra pressure of learning Korean, what do you think of this change? Do you think it’s good that K-pop is becoming more international? Or should they just stick to Korean and Chinese artists?

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  • Guest

    I think this is a really good signal to all those hopeful non-Asians who aspire to work in the Korean entertainment industry. While I think that K-pop should stay predominantly ‘Asian’, it’s great to see someone of another ethnicity breaking into the industry!

  • KateKl91

    wow :D can’t wait! gonna support them for sure ^__^

    • Guest

      Hopefully they’ll have a big European following :3

  • Matthew Brown

    This is a good sign! Which ever company they are debuting under is showing that it doesn’t matter where you come from as long as you have the talent. It is a step in the right direction :)

    • Freya

      Well said Matthew! :)

    • Freya

      Well said Matthew! :)

  • Fiona Sonola

    This is great!

    So nobody say her sitting on the other girls hand or?

    • Mai Duff

      Yeah, I noticed that too haha!

    • Freya

      I think it’s a funny angle, but it really looks that way huh? :’)

      • Fiona Sonola

        I know, I just realised. But its kinda funny

  • Fiona Sonola

    This is great!

    So nobody say her sitting on the other girls hand or?

  • Matthew Brown

    Anyone know which company they are debuting under?

    • Mai Duff

      MGMC Korea. Sorry, I should’ve mentioned that haha :)

      • Matthew Brown

        Haha :) Thanks

      • Matthew Brown

        Haha :) Thanks

    • Freya

      MGMC Korea :)

    • Freya

      MGMC Korea :)

  • http://www.facebook.com/lorraine.smith4499 Lorraine Smith

    jfhgvjfhgfshgifshgfgjidfjgifjdfjgvbifdjbgvf UGGA BUGGA WHOOOOP :o :o *thought I would join in on the fangirling* :)

  • http://www.facebook.com/lorraine.smith4499 Lorraine Smith

    jfhgvjfhgfshgifshgfgjidfjgifjdfjgvbifdjbgvf UGGA BUGGA WHOOOOP :o :o *thought I would join in on the fangirling* :)

  • ibme

    That guy from Lunafly is European so… not the first European to debut lol

  • ibme

    That guy from Lunafly is European so… not the first European to debut lol

  • Kathrine Mj Walsh

    I think I’m gonna safe this page and go back to it in a few years and laugh…
    What is it with all you saying “oh it’s great that it becomes more international”. No, K-pop is not taking over the world, the world is taking over K-pop T^T

    It’s going to be interesting to hear your opinion when half our love Korean artists are replaced by western people -.-”””” And no I’m not racist or anything. I’m European myself, and if I wanted to listen to European artist I’d do that, but I don’t….

    • Freya

      One person is hardly the world Kathrine :p it doesn’t matter what race they are, they’re singing K-pop songs, in Korean, in Korea. It doesn’t make any difference. Just because they look different (being non-Asian and all) doesn’t take away from the factors of K-pop at all for me. And if you don’t like a group having a western member, just don’t listen to that group ^^

    • littleviet_

      i totally agree with you. I don’t like it at all

    • SorayaVonDerAlm

      I started listening to kpop because it was different and i was happy to see non-white faces since this is all i mostly see where i live (i’m from Germany). I mean if i wanted to see European faces i can just listen to local Pop music.

    • SorayaVonDerAlm

      I started listening to kpop because it was different and i was happy to see non-white faces since this is all i mostly see where i live (i’m from Germany). I mean if i wanted to see European faces i can just listen to local Pop music.

      • fancyshadow

        yay, ich komme auch aus deutschland ^^
        no, i think it’s good. but just a few bands should be like this. im going to play in a german kpop band in a few years. when well become famous here, we will go to korea and maybe live there.
        i think, it doesnt matter where youre from. if you have the same music style and sing in korean / japanese and other asian languages and english, itll be okay. i mean – its the same just that were talking in german (and english and maybe a bit korean) instead of korean and dont look like asians. but fans are there to hear the music and maybe see eg the clothes and watching vlogs, but if you dont look asian, nobody would complain about that fact. do u understand?

        but i also understand your points of view. but as long as the most kpop artists are korean, itd never be a big problem
        well, thats MY point of view ^^

    • Michelle

      I agree with you!!!

    • Michelle

      I agree with you!!!

    • Bojana Keselj

      I agree completely. I’m white, but I don’t like this.

    • Bojana Keselj

      I agree completely. I’m white, but I don’t like this.

  • †Dieu du ciel†

    OH FRENCH??? *ç* (i’m french too) it’s perfect !!!

  • Mime

    Hmm and where is their teaser?

  • June

    This is amazing! I’ve waited a long time for this xD lol

  • Ania Przewodowska

    I would join in poland

  • arty521

    Lots of people are freaking out about Olivia not being Asian…..Busker Busker does really well and their member Brad is Caucasian, yet I’ve never heard people talk about how their music “isn’t really k-pop”….

    • Maja

      Brad isn’t Caucasian, Brad is white. Big difference.

      • Guest

        Actually, he is both. White people are Caucasian, but not all Caucasians are white. Brad is a white Caucasian. But you are correct in your assumption the two are different things.

    • Maja

      Brad isn’t Caucasian, Brad is white. Big difference.

      • fancyshadow

        Brad is a pit

      • Leaanna

        Are you stupid? Caucasian is the technical term for white… I’m white which means im caucasian.

  • NotKorean

    I think it’s ridiculous. A french girl in a korean group? Sorry to all of you but I don’t like it. Kpop isnt called kpop because of nothing. kpop – Korean Pop. I thought it should be clear but yeah. everyone has another opinion

    • Freya

      It’s understandable that you don’t like it, everyone has their own opinion. But tell me! if K-pop is called K-pop because there are only Korean singers, then how come there are Chinese, Taiwanese, Japanese and Thai singers in K-pop? I’m betting you like at least one group with a non-Korean member, why should this be any different?

      • itsmealeex

        but if you think about it. All of them are from asia anyway lol >_>;

        • Briana Bowman

          Oh so is that you implying that all Asians are the same? Just because she doesn’t have Asian features she shouldn’t be allowed to perform in a k-pop group? It seems like you’re creating a double standard here. You emphasize the ‘Korean’ in Korean-pop, but you neglect the fact that groups indeed have non-Korean members. I agree with Freya, everyone has their own opinion, but if you’re gonna back it up, don’t use flawed logic -__-. (Btw Busker Busker does have a non-Asian member so they’re not “all from asia anyway”)

          • june.

            Busker Busker is not k-pop, though. It’s k-indie, so no matter how you look at it, it’s not as commercial as k-pop. And frankly, I don’t care about independent bands/genres, they don’t have a certain image attached to it, so I’m okay with everything. They have certain freedom, right. But when it comes to this specific genre, that Korea itself created to be the way it is today, it’s kind of off to see something that isn’t common, that’s kinda breaking the rules. K-pop is part of korean wave, and what’s the point of having foreigners there? (Well, maybe in some crazy way like “we’re going to take one of you non-Asians and make you perfect just like we are, b/c that’s how awesome we are, we can make anyone polished and whatnot, yay go Korea”, but that’s… no, b/c at the end of the day it’s Korea that wants to expand and earn money on foreign markets, not bring foreigners there.) Other Asians – that’s okay, b/c though K-pop is mainly promoting Korea and it’s purely korean, it can be a beginning to explore other Asian countries as well. The same way for example Canada represents North America or Germany does it for Europe etc, when you look at it international-wise. I’m not saying changes are bad, just that it feels weird. It’s not the purpose of k-pop.

          • Freya

            The only real ‘purpose’ of K-pop is to be music lol. But as you said that the addition of non-Korean Asians is a way to explore other Asian countries, the same logic applies to The Gloss, they want to explore outside of Asia entirely. We need to understand K-pop has no hard and fast rules, it’s always changing. Compare K-pop of the 90s to now, it’s hardly the same. K-pop as a genre will keep expanding, and if that means the inclusion of non-Asian members in groups, then so be it. It only feels weird because it’s new, we’ll probably all get with it in the end ^^

          • june.

            Well, maybe you’re right. c:

          • Freya

            The only real ‘purpose’ of K-pop is to be music lol. But as you said that the addition of non-Korean Asians is a way to explore other Asian countries, the same logic applies to The Gloss, they want to explore outside of Asia entirely. We need to understand K-pop has no hard and fast rules, it’s always changing. Compare K-pop of the 90s to now, it’s hardly the same. K-pop as a genre will keep expanding, and if that means the inclusion of non-Asian members in groups, then so be it. It only feels weird because it’s new, we’ll probably all get with it in the end ^^

          • june.

            Well, maybe you’re right. c:

          • BLAQ Finiks

            Busker Busker sold more then any Idol group btw, only if they’re not popular outside Korea (like Idols aren’t really popular IN Korea – for ppl over, lets say, 25) doesn’t mean they aren’t commercial enough.
            Kpop is not “beginning to explore other Asian countries”. It’s pretty big for example in Japan (btw I heard Japanese Ent. has many non Asians in it so why K. Ent can’t do the same?).
            Furthermore, if you’re basically stating Kpop is for Asians only why LOADS of Kpop songs are made/produced by NON Asians?

        • http://twitter.com/sweetgurl009 Gilda Ocampo

          what about buskar buskar? the drummer is white

      • itsmealeex

        but if you think about it. All of them are from asia anyway lol >_>;

        • Gilda Ocampo

          what about buskar buskar? the drummer is white

    • Leaanna

      As long as she is singing in korean, its kpop.

  • Minah

    In my opinbion, its very good. im happy, because id like to be a trainee too. so theres a chance! i cant wait for them!

  • chelucy

    Nichkhun (2PM) is not Korean, Victoria (f(x))is not Korean … Olivia (The Gloss) is not Korean. But Kpop after all ! I’m glad this group has been created .

    • Yasmim

      Actually Nichkhun, Victoria and another not-koreans on kpop industry are always asian or at least have asian parents/grandparents. That’s the difference between them and Olivia.

    • Yasmim

      Actually Nichkhun, Victoria and another not-koreans on kpop industry are always asian or at least have asian parents/grandparents. That’s the difference between them and Olivia.

  • Guest

    K-pop is not just” singing a song n Korean.” What about the culture difference Well, that’s easy to learn..but variety shows are a HUGE part of being an idol as well…I can just see the awkward tension there >.>
    but I on’t really mind. As long as their mysic is impressive and their stage presence is powerful :3

    • Leaanna

      Well there is a korean – American girl, so she can translate.

  • friedtofubaby

    K-pop isn’t just “let’s sing a song in korean and be done with it.” What about variety shows? Culture difference? Well, the culture is easy to learn..but the awkward tension in the variety shows…
    Anyway, I won’t mind if the music is impressive and the stage presence convincing ;A;

    • Maja

      You don’t ‘learn’ a culture, you experience it. She as a French oppressor will never know the Korean culture the way Koreans know it, she’ll be left out in a lot of things and she’ll probably be fetishized by the Korean media as well.

      • Rylee

        but by that argument, the same could be said about Koreans and Asians from places that aren’t Korea. Heck, that kinda does happen already with asian members (Nickhun/Victoria being the foreign couple on WGM, other non-korean members getting pushed forward, eg. Chocolat, Skarf) They’re still accepted as a kpop idols. I do still feel bad for her, tbh, what you said was true.

    • Maja

      You don’t ‘learn’ a culture, you experience it. She as a French oppressor will never know the Korean culture the way Koreans know it, she’ll be left out in a lot of things and she’ll probably be fetishized by the Korean media as well.

      • Rylee_Ann

        but by that argument, the same could be said about Koreans and Asians from places that aren’t Korea. Heck, that kinda does happen already with asian members (Nickhun/Victoria being the foreign couple on WGM, other non-korean members getting pushed forward, eg. Chocolat, Skarf) They’re still accepted as a kpop idols. I do still feel bad for her, tbh, what you said was true.

  • Fishhh

    The population of non-koreans and “foreigner koreans” are rising in korea. Therefor it’s not so weird to see more “foreigner” face’s in the korean media. The opposite would be more strange. Like to have no “foreigner” artists in the UK?!

    I just hope the kpop concept that we all love wont change to much and that they will continue singing in korean in the future to! :)

  • Fishhh

    The population of non-koreans and “foreigner koreans” are rising in korea. Therefor it’s not so weird to see more “foreigner” face’s in the korean media. The opposite would be more strange. Like to have no “foreigner” artists in the UK?!

    I just hope the kpop concept that we all love wont change to much and that they will continue singing in korean in the future to! :)

  • 2NE1Klara

    Why is everybody so agenst her! I think you all should give her a chance! I bet that many of you gives are white/black and I bet many of you guys has this dream too^_^ Now you know that you can have a chance! ^_^ I will cheer on her!~^_^

  • Yeonie

    Oliviaaaa Hwaiting!!!! Now, I know that I have the chance too… I though that it would be impossible for me…

  • Zoe Hutchinson

    OMG I AM SO TOTALLY SHOCKED! ;___; I so wanna go and train in SK and debut! its my total dream wow. shes so lucky!!!!

  • Zoe Hutchinson

    OMG I AM SO TOTALLY SHOCKED! ;___; I so wanna go and train in SK and debut! its my total dream wow. shes so lucky!!!!

  • Lolypop

    Noooooooooooo we want koreans :(((((( yaaaaa chincha

  • Lolypop

    Noooooooooooo we want koreans :(((((( yaaaaa chincha

  • Sabrina Andreazza

    Sorry, but I don’t understand…. They are from which company?

    I think that is so good for we – American fans of K-Pop -.Now we can have a inspiration to strive and try a audition… I’m a brasilian fan, my cover group will try a Global audition this year, I think The Gloss will be a sucessful group.

    Thank U, ~Chu

  • Sabrina Andreazza

    Sorry, but I don’t understand…. They are from which company?

    I think that is so good for we – American fans of K-Pop -.Now we can have a inspiration to strive and try a audition… I’m a brasilian fan, my cover group will try a Global audition this year, I think The Gloss will be a sucessful group.

    Thank U, ~Chu

  • 1stRateDreamer

    Some people are complaining that having foreigners in a Kpop group goes against what Kpop is, but I honestly don’t understand that. The people singing and dancing aren’t what make Kpop; it’s the style of the music and the style of the dancing that make Kpop what it is. I’m sure that if you didn’t know who the members of The Gloss were and you heard their songs, you wouldn’t be able to tell that there’s a foreigner in the group (unless her pronunciation is off, which is understandable if her native language isn’t Korean). Why? Because the style will still be that of Kpop. There’s no reason to get upset because there is finally a non-Asian in a Kpop group when you think of it like that. And if you’re worried about Kpop becoming Westernized, I don’t think that’s a big problem. Korea is going to keep to its own style, just like the US keeps to its own style, Spain keeps to its own style, etc. Will Kpop change? Most likely it will change through the years, but there will always be that certain something about it that makes it Kpop. And anyways, this is just one group that’s only just starting out. Calm down and see what they can do before jumping the gun and thinking this is all a bad idea. The Gloss might just turn out to be really great.

  • 1stRateDreamer

    Some people are complaining that having foreigners in a Kpop group goes against what Kpop is, but I honestly don’t understand that. The people singing and dancing aren’t what make Kpop; it’s the style of the music and the style of the dancing that make Kpop what it is. I’m sure that if you didn’t know who the members of The Gloss were and you heard their songs, you wouldn’t be able to tell that there’s a foreigner in the group (unless her pronunciation is off, which is understandable if her native language isn’t Korean). Why? Because the style will still be that of Kpop. There’s no reason to get upset because there is finally a non-Asian in a Kpop group when you think of it like that. And if you’re worried about Kpop becoming Westernized, I don’t think that’s a big problem. Korea is going to keep to its own style, just like the US keeps to its own style, Spain keeps to its own style, etc. Will Kpop change? Most likely it will change through the years, but there will always be that certain something about it that makes it Kpop. And anyways, this is just one group that’s only just starting out. Calm down and see what they can do before jumping the gun and thinking this is all a bad idea. The Gloss might just turn out to be really great.

  • Nana

    Olivia doesn’t really fit the asia look sorry but i’m but ati but i think k-pop should stay the same.
    Doesn’t feel right with a non asian in this band

  • clarice

    K-pop should just stay k-pop because if we have more non korean or chinese ,thai people then it will become more of an western pop thing. It should stay Asian.

  • random

    if people here actually like kpop music it shouldnt be because of how the kpop singers look , it should be about their ability to actually sing.. and if you don’t like them because of this , there are about a million other kpop artists, just go listen to something else

    • millie

      But she can’t sing! Have you seen their videos? She sings like one line.

      K-Pop should only have Koreans because it’s called KPOP, NOT MIXPOP
      When you add a French chick, it changes the whole meaning of K-POP

  • random

    lol i wonder how actual koreans feel about this rather than other europeans who are just hating for some reason ..some sort of inferiority complex maybe?

  • !!!!!

    lol i wonder how actual koreans feel about this rather than other europeans who are just hating for some reason ..some sort of inferiority complex maybe?!

  • !!!!!

    lol i wonder how actual koreans feel about this rather than other europeans who are just hating for some reason ..some sort of inferiority complex maybe?!

  • canoramoja

    it’s so good ^_^ oh! it’s like american industry there not only american on usa there french,english, asian ….but they sing on english so it’s open it’s cool ^_^ !!!
    it’s not because we’re not asian that we can’t sing we have all talent , the most important it’s talent not ur origin

  • Conde Gyu

    So people r saying that they listen to kpop… cause they’re asian? LMAO I listen to kpop because the music sounds good, i don’t give a fuck to how the idols look.

  • Lanie .K.

    I actually think its sad that people who have a passion to be in the K-POP scene are discriminated by their ethnicity; whether they are of a different Asian ethnicity or European. I like K-POP, not because they are all Korean but because it has a more exciting culture. It brings a diversity compared to the American Industry where sex is advertised 24/7. There is structure and respect among society in Korea, although I do understand that in some respect, there are some discrimination’s within the K-POP scene. I guess I can’t say much on whether foreigners are accepted into the K-POP scene because I’m actually Samoan…hehehe…K-POP was my saviour because I went through a pretty rough patch and I was a K-POPPER WAYYYYYYYYYYYY before Gangnam Style…it’s kind of my dream too but I understand that it’ll be difficult…

  • Queenbeechickeee

    I see all these comments about people being upset over her being European and ho they would “listen to European artists if they wanted to but they don’t thats why thy listen to kpop” guys I’m sorry to say for those of you saying these stupid things Lund completely ignorant and might I even say a little jealous. The rules of kpop hav not changed the CEO of the company still tells everyone to do and the members still need to speak and sing in Korean. I for one don’t like kpop for the asain entertainers, I like it for the KPOP genre. The style, form and way kpop is handled I love it all not once have I criticized a Chinese, Taiwanese, Japanese etc.. Kpop str bc they weren’t korean. Just bc you say “not tht I’m rasist but or I’m not being rasist but” doesn’t mean what you say isn’t rasist when in fact it’s completely and utterly so not t mention hypocritical. Take for expample 2pm they are becoming Moree and more popular as time goes by getting more and more fans and I’m pretty sure that most of you no that nichkhun one of the most popular members is in fact not korean. So how are u (well at least fans of 2pm that say this, for everyone else it’s just an example) being rude to a tech girl but not nichkun or many of the other artists that are quite famous and not korean. It’s 2013 and its this kinda stuff that sets us as people 100 years back. Anyone and I mean anyone should be able to follow their dreams I don’t even no if I’ll like the gloss but let me tell you I apload this girl bc she’s going to have the hardest job ever if she fails no one in the world might never get a chane to be a kpop star if they aren’t korean, but if she succeeds

  • Queenbeechickeee

    I realized I left alot of things out and a lot of my post sounds like a rant and for that I apologize. But I’ve been seeing to many comments like this and it’s really starting to get me upset. Overall to close up Olivia will be a sight to watch and I hope the best for her considering the hurdles she will have to pass.

  • Jess

    Who cares where she’s from? If she can sing in Korean, what else matters? That’s like saying I don’t listen to that group because they are ugly. It’s so frivolous!

  • kluf

    I’m a Korean American girl, and I know I will probably receive a lot of hate for this comment, but I wanted to put this out there. Although I understand the desire for non Asian foreign fans to receive an equal chance to debut at a Kpop idol singer, I do prefer my Kpop idols to be Asian. Quite honestly, even if Grace were really talented, I wouldn’t be an enthusiastic supporter of her or her group. I have nothing against her personally, but the fact that she isn’t of Asian descent holds back my support. Maybe it’s pride, maybe it is racism, but I want to see my Asian Kpop idols succeed globally, not with the addition of non Asian idol members. Even if he/she was born and raised in Korea for his/her entire life, I’m automatically have some negative feeling. I feel possessive, in a way, because I want Kpop to be a “thing” where only Asians can succeed and impact the international pop world.

  • kluf

    I’m a Korean American girl, and I know I will probably receive a lot of hate for this comment, but I wanted to put this out there. Although I understand the desire for non Asian foreign fans to receive an equal chance to debut at a Kpop idol singer, I do prefer my Kpop idols to be Asian. Quite honestly, even if Grace were really talented, I wouldn’t be an enthusiastic supporter of her or her group. I have nothing against her personally, but the fact that she isn’t of Asian descent holds back my support. Maybe it’s pride, maybe it is racism, but I want to see my Asian Kpop idols succeed globally, not with the addition of non Asian idol members. Even if he/she was born and raised in Korea for his/her entire life, I’m automatically have some negative feeling. I feel possessive, in a way, because I want Kpop to be a “thing” where only Asians can succeed and impact the international pop world.

    • Ting

      kluf are you referring to Olivia rather than Grace? Grace is Korean American.

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